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we live in a reality of phantoms and

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monsters they exist Among Us and

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sometimes they win even the devil was an

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angel once the world has its own rules

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and these rules are not human

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some of us seek answers to the origin

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and existence of Cryptids and The

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Unexplained

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join us as we venture beyond the known

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and accepted boundaries Welcome to our

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nightmare I think you're going to like

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folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of phantoms and monsters

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radio where we explore the strange and

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you unexplained I'm your host lawn

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Stricker thanks for joining us

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appreciated so tonight

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we welcome Tales from the dark podcast

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host Bob Hicks and Brittany Clark

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Bob and Brittany started Tales from the

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dark podcast in December of 2020 or

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excuse me yeah 2000 that's right 2020

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I'm sorry and where they cover all

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things weird from Bigfoot and aliens to

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Ghost and conspiracy theories nothing is

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off limits for this show

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Bob has been investigating the

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Paranormal for the past 15 years and

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Brittany is a practicing witch and

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ufologist Brittany also hosts the tales

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from the dark True Crime podcast where

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she covers the other side of Horror by

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diving into one specific subject per

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season the first season of The Black

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Widow Killers is out now

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they are also working on a documentary

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that will be out by the end of this year

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maybe coming out soon and uh where they

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investigated a haunted infirmary and

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call it what they believe to be some of

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the most convincing paranormal evidence

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they have ever seen the podcast could be

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found at talesthedark.net

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so Bob and Brittany thank you for

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joining me this evening

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thanks for having us mom we really

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appreciate it yeah absolutely

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so uh I I know you sent um some images

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of some of the areas you've been

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investigating and some other things so

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why don't you uh first of all tell us

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about what you're working on or whatever

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you want to talk about

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well so we uh in our podcast we kind of

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believe in the the old Practice What You

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Preach we don't like to discuss things

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that we haven't experienced firsthand so

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we travel all across the U.S uh we

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recently went out all the way out to

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mount Schuster Mount Shasta I'm not sure

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the correct pronunciation uh in

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California we went to Area 51 skin

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walker Ranch we've spent the night more

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time so we can count over in Point

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been down to Hell here Kentucky looking

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for the Goblins we go all over the place

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and recently uh our primary focus has

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been on the documentary like you said we

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have a documentary where we're actually

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going to I think tell the name for the

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first time tonight uh so it's an

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exclusive for the show it's called

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Phantom farm and it's we we uh had a

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weird little synchronicity uh some

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investigators that I know through other

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walks of life reached out and they said

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hey we we had this really weird thing

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happen and it was it was a scratch is

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what kind of got us interested and my

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first thought was okay paranormal

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investigators got scratched I'm sure you

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know because every show has that as a

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that old tired Trope and yet we went

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there and my mind was blown I've been

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doing this for 15 years and we you know

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captured something that we've sent to

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people that are on National Television

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we sent to uh audio Engineers I've sent

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it to everyone that'll listen and nobody

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can explain what we what we caught on

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and that'll be coming out we actually

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just uh we we cut everything we're

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exporting it now and it's going to be

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available probably by the end of this

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month or the middle of next month at the

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absolute latest so definitely pretty

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excited for all that

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well that's great I mean I hope I hope

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the best for you on that

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um so why don't you tell us a bit about

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some of your investigations and and what

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you've been up to the last couple years

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uh you know I know everybody would like

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to hear about it okay yeah uh Tales from

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the dark actually has a pretty

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interesting uh I guess origin story yeah

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game League of Legends and you know she

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had no real interest in ufology

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kind of stuff and I had an idea a couple

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years ago uh where I wanted to start I

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really wanted to go the YouTube route I

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wanted to kind of dive into some

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internet Mysteries and I came across

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this weird internet mystery about these

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phone booths believe it or not this

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weird phone booth connection where I

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know 2022 you hear hearing or 2023 now

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crazy and there was this weird kind of

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background connection to it so I I did a

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full video series and that kind of took

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sitting in Geraldine Sutton's kitchen

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hearing about the Hopkinsville Goblin

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incident that was an amazing

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been a roller coaster ever since it

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seems like every other week we're

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getting we're getting called to go do

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something rather that's look for injured

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afternoon or getting you know chased out

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of skin walk a ranch we're kind of all

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over the place right now and it's uh

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kind of a never-ending but always

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growing uh adventure for us

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well let's let's start with the certain

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form that and I find that interesting

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morphed over years

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what what did you gather from her did is

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it is it like the original story or was

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it something different

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absolutely so how how we kind of got

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connected with her was a synchronistic

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way all of itself we met the guys from

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Ohio and uh after Bob did an interview

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with them this was pre this is all

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during like the six months before we

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was I think around September time if I

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met Geraldine around Thanksgiving that

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weird synchronicity where I was I guess

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on the broio podcast and they you know

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it to me of hey I know Geraldine Sutton

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so Britney's back I'll kind of give it

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back to her now

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sorry about that guys so anyway Rob he

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uh met Geraldine through the brahaya

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podcast and

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the craziest thing happened because Bob

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was like we'd love to come talk to you

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we'd love to talk about the Hopkinsville

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goblins uh can we come down and meet you

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and Geraldine invited us into our home

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we had like a 200 subscriber YouTube

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channel at that point no podcast we

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didn't really have a lot to our name and

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she still invited us to her home to come

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film an interview with her and Bob was

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skeptical I wasn't because she seemed

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very genuine she seemed very sweet but

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Bob and our friend Tyler who traveled

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with us were very skeptical about the

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story and when they sat down and I

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watched the whole thing from behind the

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camera Geraldine is so genuine and one

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thing that she really tells you and and

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expresses very well is the fact that

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this was a family they didn't ask for

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this they weren't you know going after

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this for fame and money they were

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genuinely hurt and upset by what was

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happening to them and their family in

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the aftermath of the media and the

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critics and being called crazies like

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this is traumatic for them and they live

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the rest of their life not really wanted

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to talk about it and Geraldine actually

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found out through a interview the guy

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who came to the house was doing an

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interview for a book and she was like I

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think eight years old yeah

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and that was the first time she'd ever

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even heard about this incident and her

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dad didn't even want to tell her

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so I I mean from my perspective is a

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extremely genuine story and I love

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Geraldine to death she is so sweet

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so what exactly did she tell you did uh

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so that was what surprised me so I had

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the the dates who was involved who

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wasn't involved and I was kind of and I

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told Geraldine so I can say it publicly

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I was thinking she was gonna trip up in

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the story somewhere that it was gonna

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this is my big aha moment of okay this

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story's nonsense because when you you

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listen to the story of a family that is

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literally protecting their farm with

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shotguns and rifles from Little Green

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Spielberg movie but she she actually

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corrects some of the dates and she said

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you know it's my biggest gripe is they

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got my daddy's name wrong and I said

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well what do you mean and then she she

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you know she explains it to me then I

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verified this later I'm like oh they did

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okay so so kind of what else and it was

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a pretty much verbatim story to what I

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have heard but it was she kind of

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expanded on some of the details as you

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know there's a big misconception that

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the military just came out out of

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nowhere well that was kind of a it was a

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accompanied by local law enforcement

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local law enforcement said hey we don't

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know what this is something strange is

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happening we do trust these people and

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then the military police I think I'm not

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sure if it was Fort Campbell but a

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nearby military police came out and

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checked it out as well and she's

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actually one of the biggest debunkers of

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misinformation of the story and that's

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and she'll go on the offensive if a

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saying hey this is what's incorrect

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about the story or this is what you're

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not telling us about the story and you

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know I went from someone who I approach

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everything is it's nonsense and I'm

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known on my uh my podcast as being the

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just harbinger of bad news because it's

279
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a bunker yeah every time someone sends

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me a video Bob what do you think of this

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well let me explain to you how I would

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recreate this if I can recreate it it's

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probably fake and to have Geraldine

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convince me that something did happen

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now am I going to outright say without a

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shadow of a doubt Little Green Men came

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out I can't say that because I wasn't

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there but did something strange happen

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to her and her family that has since

290
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taken light in her life in in ways of

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hauntings and other paranormal events

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absolutely I would I would put my entire

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reputation on something did happen that

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night

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interesting

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dude how um did she talk to you or go

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into the Project Blue Book's involvement

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with this and what they uncovered or

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what they said

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so the only thing regarding Blue Book

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that her and I have talked about was

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there was a lot of reporters that gauged

303
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interest in her and her father

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um and he he stopped doing interviews

305
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for a while because they were kind of

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just painting him as the dumb hillbilly

307
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and they weren't really taking his story

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or taking what he had to say is truth

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they would kind of start twisting and

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and manipulating the words so she didn't

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mention too much about Project Blue Book

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but I do know her her dad was very

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adamant that this is what happened and

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this is what should be printed and that

315
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wasn't always the case so I I'm not I'm

316
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always kind of leery and I actually run

317
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a lot of things by her when I read them

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in various books like hey does this

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match up with the story that you know to

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be true

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interesting

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now you mentioned earlier about uh the

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injured cold house what's that all about

324
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I I I'm somewhat familiar with the case

325
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um

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you know I of course know about Woody uh

327
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darenberger and what he said happened

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and then darenberger's daughter wrote

329
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this book basically talking about

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uh that she hadn't met injured Coles

331
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some other supposed

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venetians and the family

333
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um what's the deal on the house

334
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so we like to go and investigate things

335
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and you know a lot of the Facebook

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groups posed about recent sightings

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whether that be UFOs or that's

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conspiracies we like to actually go to

339
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the place like Bob said earlier in the

340
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podcast well in one of the hell your

341
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groups Andy Colvin which was a writer

342
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and publisher who worked with John Keel

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and a couple other really famous artists

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or excuse me writers during that time

345
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period was making a lot of posts

346
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um about he he recently became active in

347
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that group and I don't I think he

348
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stopped yeah what was what name was he

349
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under the saucer uh the the was it the

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salsarian which was the name of his

351
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publishing group or well I think it was

352
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actually

353
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um a reinvention of a previous publisher

354
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yeah so he was posting as a cesarean and

355
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he was also messaging people as his

356
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actual Facebook profile picture uh under

357
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Andy Colvin but he posted in the Hellyer

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group that he knew where injured Cold's

359
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house was the one that he resided in

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near Point Pleasant the one where he

361
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allegedly was at for a couple years

362
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before he had he was forced to move and

363
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he swore up and down he knew where this

364
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was and Bob interacted with the post and

365
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was like okay give me the dates and I

366
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think it was about a three and a half

367
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hour drive for us to was it Middletown

368
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midpoint I think it was midpoint it's

369
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it's about an hour or so outside of

370
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Point Pleasant yeah

371
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and so he claimed that there was going

372
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to be this really old cabin that was

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going to be there like almost like a

374
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shed and he said that inside of it was

375
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going to have a bunch of symbols and

376
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things like that for protection and uh

377
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so we just kind of got up and went and

378
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we're like okay if you're saying it's

379
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gonna be here we're gonna go check we

380
00:15:02,030 --> 00:15:00,180
went there and what was weird was there

381
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was this brand new house that was built

382
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like I'm talking Turf still you can

383
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still see the dirt under the turf kind

384
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of brand new

385
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and uh there was no shed there was

386
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nothing there

387
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um no lights we didn't see anything in

388
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the sky really while we were there but

389
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we still went and checked and uh at that

390
00:15:21,290 --> 00:15:19,139
point I think Andy kind of dived down

391
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once we told him it wasn't there but

392
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yeah that was kind of a crazy experience

393
00:15:29,389 --> 00:15:26,760
in a wow yeah I've had my I've had my

394
00:15:31,189 --> 00:15:29,399
issues with Andy Coleman in the past uh

395
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you know I've had some copyright issues

396
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with him

397
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so I I know he he has a tendency to

398
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embellish on things so and I'm going to

399
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say that right out

400
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um so I I understand

401
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uh if he he says something and it just

402
00:15:51,949 --> 00:15:48,600
doesn't exactly turn out to be what he

403
00:15:54,769 --> 00:15:51,959
said it was so that's it I mean

404
00:15:57,009 --> 00:15:54,779
I'm you know I'm that's interesting

405
00:16:00,050 --> 00:15:57,019
um but anyway

406
00:16:02,569 --> 00:16:00,060
uh so you you don't believe it was

407
00:16:04,370 --> 00:16:02,579
actual housing no

408
00:16:05,269 --> 00:16:04,380
um and I kind of went on the offensive

409
00:16:06,009 --> 00:16:05,279
with him

410
00:16:09,470 --> 00:16:06,019
um

411
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solely for the uh the fact that the

412
00:16:13,550 --> 00:16:11,639
story kind of started to fall apart once

413
00:16:16,189 --> 00:16:13,560
we were there so he ghosted us initially

414
00:16:18,590 --> 00:16:16,199
wouldn't message us back for 30 40 45

415
00:16:20,750 --> 00:16:18,600
minutes uh then he messaged back and he

416
00:16:22,490 --> 00:16:20,760
he had kind of blamed the Secret order

417
00:16:24,889 --> 00:16:22,500
and the government and the government

418
00:16:26,030 --> 00:16:24,899
for you know changing things around and

419
00:16:27,949 --> 00:16:26,040
again uh

420
00:16:30,110 --> 00:16:27,959
I will give everyone the benefit of the

421
00:16:31,970 --> 00:16:30,120
doubt until I have a reason not to right

422
00:16:34,310 --> 00:16:31,980
and it was one of those situations where

423
00:16:35,870 --> 00:16:34,320
if he all he had to say in my in my mind

424
00:16:37,850 --> 00:16:35,880
and this is what I told him so I can say

425
00:16:39,769 --> 00:16:37,860
it publicly you just had to say you

426
00:16:42,410 --> 00:16:39,779
weren't sure and I wouldn't have said

427
00:16:44,569 --> 00:16:42,420
now was it interesting that the uh the

428
00:16:46,129 --> 00:16:44,579
house is brand new sure was this a

429
00:16:48,050 --> 00:16:46,139
location that has a very similar feeling

430
00:16:50,569 --> 00:16:48,060
to Point Pleasant absolutely and anyone

431
00:16:53,389 --> 00:16:50,579
who's been to Point Pleasant knows that

432
00:16:55,610 --> 00:16:53,399
dreamy weird feeling this this place

433
00:16:58,129 --> 00:16:55,620
shared it but you know I also approach

434
00:17:00,170 --> 00:16:58,139
it from a skeptical perspective of uh

435
00:17:02,210 --> 00:17:00,180
if you go with the anticipation of

436
00:17:04,909 --> 00:17:02,220
finding injured Cold's house you might

437
00:17:06,829 --> 00:17:04,919
your your mind very well could recreate

438
00:17:08,809 --> 00:17:06,839
those feelings for you in a new location

439
00:17:10,850 --> 00:17:08,819
and the only thing I really want to add

440
00:17:12,710 --> 00:17:10,860
to that as well is if you are going to

441
00:17:14,990 --> 00:17:12,720
go investigate and look at into these

442
00:17:16,549 --> 00:17:15,000
locations that you know seemingly random

443
00:17:19,010 --> 00:17:16,559
people send you you have to be very

444
00:17:21,409 --> 00:17:19,020
careful uh this isn't our first rodeo

445
00:17:22,909 --> 00:17:21,419
and we make sure that we are aware of

446
00:17:24,770 --> 00:17:22,919
our surroundings and we're watching for

447
00:17:26,150 --> 00:17:24,780
anything sketchy

448
00:17:28,549 --> 00:17:26,160
um but yeah it's actually pretty

449
00:17:31,130 --> 00:17:28,559
dangerous to kind of go out when someone

450
00:17:34,250 --> 00:17:31,140
sends you random information so we stuck

451
00:17:36,230 --> 00:17:34,260
in the car but we yeah it's just be

452
00:17:38,450 --> 00:17:36,240
careful if you do decide to go follow

453
00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:38,460
someone's lead that way

454
00:17:44,210 --> 00:17:41,760
hmm yeah I I get you I understand that

455
00:17:45,289 --> 00:17:44,220
uh now when you were that you went to

456
00:17:46,850 --> 00:17:45,299
point you said you've been to Point

457
00:17:48,350 --> 00:17:46,860
Pleasant several times what's your

458
00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:48,360
thoughts on Point Pleasant the whole

459
00:17:52,850 --> 00:17:50,880
Mothman phenomena and uh some of the

460
00:17:55,250 --> 00:17:52,860
other stuff that occurred there it

461
00:17:59,210 --> 00:17:55,260
changes like every time we go there it

462
00:18:01,730 --> 00:17:59,220
almost feels like I I think personally I

463
00:18:03,710 --> 00:18:01,740
do think there is some validity to the

464
00:18:07,190 --> 00:18:03,720
people who saw Mothman seeing something

465
00:18:09,650 --> 00:18:07,200
weird but I mean one time we can go out

466
00:18:11,330 --> 00:18:09,660
to the shooting range out there and it

467
00:18:13,970 --> 00:18:11,340
feel completely dead like nothing ever

468
00:18:16,430 --> 00:18:13,980
weird happened another time it can be

469
00:18:19,070 --> 00:18:16,440
synchronicity after synchronicity and

470
00:18:20,810 --> 00:18:19,080
it's just really back and forth yeah for

471
00:18:22,850 --> 00:18:20,820
me no no I would completely agree with

472
00:18:24,110 --> 00:18:22,860
that so uh like Britney just said that's

473
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one of our favorite places to go and

474
00:18:28,610 --> 00:18:26,520
practice our our firearm shooting is is

475
00:18:30,169 --> 00:18:28,620
that Point Pleasant they have a uh a

476
00:18:32,510 --> 00:18:30,179
free range of public range that you can

477
00:18:33,950 --> 00:18:32,520
use out there and but we but we've been

478
00:18:35,750 --> 00:18:33,960
on the opposite side of we've you know

479
00:18:38,390 --> 00:18:35,760
we spent the night we've literally been

480
00:18:41,930 --> 00:18:38,400
out for 12 14 hours staying all night

481
00:18:44,330 --> 00:18:41,940
out in the TNT area and it always it's

482
00:18:46,070 --> 00:18:44,340
always different I kind of am with

483
00:18:47,029 --> 00:18:46,080
Brittany I do believe that something did

484
00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:47,039
happen

485
00:18:50,090 --> 00:18:48,960
um but I also think there's a lot of

486
00:18:53,630 --> 00:18:50,100
things that are blown out of proportion

487
00:18:56,390 --> 00:18:53,640
and that that's unfortunate but uh it's

488
00:18:57,650 --> 00:18:56,400
one of those things where I feel like

489
00:18:59,690 --> 00:18:57,660
it's a place that if you have any kind

490
00:19:01,190 --> 00:18:59,700
of interest in cryptozoology you have to

491
00:19:03,289 --> 00:19:01,200
make a trip at some point it is an

492
00:19:05,450 --> 00:19:03,299
amazing and the people there are great

493
00:19:07,190 --> 00:19:05,460
and it's just one of those situations

494
00:19:09,289 --> 00:19:07,200
where

495
00:19:10,430 --> 00:19:09,299
the town I think is completely safe at

496
00:19:12,529 --> 00:19:10,440
night I think you could walk through

497
00:19:13,970 --> 00:19:12,539
downtown take pictures of the the old uh

498
00:19:15,950 --> 00:19:13,980
Hotel take pictures of everything just

499
00:19:17,450 --> 00:19:15,960
fine I don't know that I would say the

500
00:19:20,029 --> 00:19:17,460
same about the

501
00:19:20,930 --> 00:19:20,039
uh I'm sorry the TNT area because we

502
00:19:22,549 --> 00:19:20,940
actually went out there and shot a

503
00:19:24,490 --> 00:19:22,559
little mini documentary for our patrons

504
00:19:28,549 --> 00:19:24,500
and while we were out there

505
00:19:30,289 --> 00:19:28,559
we were kind of sharing the the set with

506
00:19:31,730 --> 00:19:30,299
like coyotes that were very close to us

507
00:19:35,029 --> 00:19:31,740
we went out to where the power plant had

508
00:19:36,590 --> 00:19:35,039
has now been removed and I mean we could

509
00:19:37,909 --> 00:19:36,600
hear the coyotes moving around you could

510
00:19:40,730 --> 00:19:37,919
hear them howling and we're talking

511
00:19:42,169 --> 00:19:40,740
probably a group of eight or ten so it's

512
00:19:43,970 --> 00:19:42,179
like anywhere else it's a wildlife

513
00:19:45,770 --> 00:19:43,980
refuge now and it's not the most safe

514
00:19:47,870 --> 00:19:45,780
especially if you're not used to being

515
00:19:49,370 --> 00:19:47,880
in the woods you're not used to that

516
00:19:50,690 --> 00:19:49,380
sort of thing

517
00:19:53,930 --> 00:19:50,700
right

518
00:19:56,029 --> 00:19:53,940
yeah I mean I I've been going to uh

519
00:19:58,370 --> 00:19:56,039
Point Pleasant since the 80s so I'm

520
00:20:01,490 --> 00:19:58,380
pretty familiar with it and everything

521
00:20:02,810 --> 00:20:01,500
that's going on there over time

522
00:20:08,330 --> 00:20:02,820
um

523
00:20:10,990 --> 00:20:08,340
let me ask you this the in let me uh the

524
00:20:13,850 --> 00:20:11,000
inner cold phenomenon

525
00:20:15,230 --> 00:20:13,860
and Point Pleasant in general you think

526
00:20:18,169 --> 00:20:15,240
there's a connection

527
00:20:20,330 --> 00:20:18,179
uh I don't actually and that's I'm the

528
00:20:21,409 --> 00:20:20,340
same as you yeah I get some major Flack

529
00:20:23,390 --> 00:20:21,419
for that because people watch The

530
00:20:25,789 --> 00:20:23,400
Mothman Prophecies the Richard uh gear

531
00:20:28,130 --> 00:20:25,799
flick and they think hey these things

532
00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:28,140
were overlapping and related no they

533
00:20:31,310 --> 00:20:29,280
really weren't even when you look at the

534
00:20:32,570 --> 00:20:31,320
date ranges they were they were not they

535
00:20:34,789 --> 00:20:32,580
were pretty far apart from one another

536
00:20:36,529 --> 00:20:34,799
and uh yeah I get some pretty major

537
00:20:37,909 --> 00:20:36,539
Flack when people are like well how did

538
00:20:39,710 --> 00:20:37,919
you cover moth Bambi you didn't bother

539
00:20:40,789 --> 00:20:39,720
covering injured cold because they had

540
00:20:44,210 --> 00:20:40,799
nothing to do with one another that's

541
00:20:46,909 --> 00:20:44,220
that's why I know several ufologists who

542
00:20:49,370 --> 00:20:46,919
believe there is a connection

543
00:20:51,890 --> 00:20:49,380
um but I'm like you I don't believe

544
00:20:54,289 --> 00:20:51,900
there's any connection whatsoever the

545
00:20:56,150 --> 00:20:54,299
only connection that there may be is

546
00:20:58,190 --> 00:20:56,160
that of course in The Point Pleasant

547
00:21:00,350 --> 00:20:58,200
area and even the Mason County area in

548
00:21:03,529 --> 00:21:00,360
general there was a lot of UFO activity

549
00:21:05,570 --> 00:21:03,539
and still is uh there may be a

550
00:21:07,370 --> 00:21:05,580
connection with what happened up closer

551
00:21:10,909 --> 00:21:07,380
to Parkersburg with what happened to

552
00:21:13,490 --> 00:21:10,919
Derringer and injured cold but

553
00:21:16,669 --> 00:21:13,500
you know that's kind of that's a stretch

554
00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:16,679
so but as far as with the Mothman I just

555
00:21:20,690 --> 00:21:17,760
don't believe there's any connection

556
00:21:23,090 --> 00:21:20,700
whatsoever the only connection that I

557
00:21:26,210 --> 00:21:23,100
could even see from like a Outsider

558
00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:26,220
perspective would be maybe one theory

559
00:21:29,930 --> 00:21:27,600
that we have been exploring pretty

560
00:21:32,270 --> 00:21:29,940
recently has been you know

561
00:21:34,850 --> 00:21:32,280
the things of high strangeness whether

562
00:21:37,610 --> 00:21:34,860
that be UFO Cryptid or even paranormal

563
00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:37,620
like hauntings you usually come in

564
00:21:44,149 --> 00:21:40,320
threes so maybe injured was the alien

565
00:21:45,770 --> 00:21:44,159
and Mothman was the uh Cryptid you know

566
00:21:47,390 --> 00:21:45,780
and there are less Poltergeist like

567
00:21:49,610 --> 00:21:47,400
activity around that time period as well

568
00:21:51,770 --> 00:21:49,620
that was very prominent Around The Point

569
00:21:53,930 --> 00:21:51,780
Pleasant area yeah uh John Keel wrote

570
00:21:55,430 --> 00:21:53,940
about the the window areas of and not

571
00:21:57,409 --> 00:21:55,440
window areas of high strangers but the

572
00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:57,419
window areas of fear which is something

573
00:22:01,130 --> 00:21:59,520
that's that's so often overlooked in

574
00:22:02,750 --> 00:22:01,140
both the Tower and the Mothman

575
00:22:05,390 --> 00:22:02,760
Prophecies is those windows area because

576
00:22:07,190 --> 00:22:05,400
we I've experienced those myself and

577
00:22:09,110 --> 00:22:07,200
it's one thing to read them it's another

578
00:22:10,490 --> 00:22:09,120
thing to experience one and if the

579
00:22:12,730 --> 00:22:10,500
listeners are unfamiliar what the window

580
00:22:15,649 --> 00:22:12,740
areas of fear that they're speaking of

581
00:22:16,970 --> 00:22:15,659
is you'll walk into you'll you know

582
00:22:19,310 --> 00:22:16,980
you'll be driving or you'll be walking

583
00:22:20,110 --> 00:22:19,320
and then all of a sudden for no apparent

584
00:22:23,390 --> 00:22:20,120
reason

585
00:22:25,610 --> 00:22:23,400
your adrenaline starts to pump you are

586
00:22:27,230 --> 00:22:25,620
borderline terrified your heart's right

587
00:22:29,450 --> 00:22:27,240
your heart's racing anxieties at an

588
00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:29,460
all-time uh all-time high and you're

589
00:22:33,049 --> 00:22:31,200
looking around it's kind of like the the

590
00:22:34,370 --> 00:22:33,059
Predator prey kicks in and you're like

591
00:22:36,770 --> 00:22:34,380
what's going to hurt me with something

592
00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:36,780
going to attack me and it's it's a very

593
00:22:40,970 --> 00:22:38,640
bizarre phenomenon that's in my opinion

594
00:22:43,010 --> 00:22:40,980
not talked about nearly enough and it's

595
00:22:44,390 --> 00:22:43,020
been present when we've looked for UFOs

596
00:22:46,430 --> 00:22:44,400
we've looked for Cryptids and when we

597
00:22:47,810 --> 00:22:46,440
looked for ghost I've had this happen in

598
00:22:49,549 --> 00:22:47,820
all three instances so I think there is

599
00:22:52,730 --> 00:22:49,559
something to it

600
00:22:54,350 --> 00:22:52,740
yeah I think the um and John Keel talked

601
00:22:58,070 --> 00:22:54,360
about this I even talked to him about

602
00:22:59,930 --> 00:22:58,080
this years ago uh about the uh the

603
00:23:02,930 --> 00:22:59,940
portals and the interdimensional

604
00:23:04,730 --> 00:23:02,940
theories and ultra-terrestrials and he

605
00:23:07,250 --> 00:23:04,740
wrote about it in the Mothman Prophecies

606
00:23:09,049 --> 00:23:07,260
he even talked about it on occasion now

607
00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:09,059
of course a lot of what was in the book

608
00:23:14,570 --> 00:23:11,280
was never got on the film

609
00:23:16,370 --> 00:23:14,580
but uh and which is unfortunate but of

610
00:23:20,630 --> 00:23:16,380
course it's Hollywood so you know it's

611
00:23:23,149 --> 00:23:20,640
it's entertainment but uh yeah I mean I

612
00:23:25,930 --> 00:23:23,159
I do believe there there are a lot of

613
00:23:29,210 --> 00:23:25,940
there's a lot of phenomena that happened

614
00:23:31,130 --> 00:23:29,220
uh at Point Pleasant that was connected

615
00:23:34,330 --> 00:23:31,140
and of course you talked about all the

616
00:23:37,010 --> 00:23:34,340
uh the Poltergeist and and other

617
00:23:38,330 --> 00:23:37,020
paranormal activity which was prevalent

618
00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:38,340
there

619
00:23:44,990 --> 00:23:41,520
decades before that because Point

620
00:23:47,870 --> 00:23:45,000
Pleasant has a very very

621
00:23:49,130 --> 00:23:47,880
strong indigenous

622
00:23:51,649 --> 00:23:49,140
spirit

623
00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:51,659
presence oh and I'm talking about the

624
00:23:56,330 --> 00:23:54,000
rule throughout it uh because the

625
00:23:58,250 --> 00:23:56,340
Shawnee and used to they battled even

626
00:24:00,830 --> 00:23:58,260
tribes that were there before that they

627
00:24:02,450 --> 00:24:00,840
battled other tribes and of course the

628
00:24:04,130 --> 00:24:02,460
settlers that were there there was a lot

629
00:24:07,490 --> 00:24:04,140
of Warring in that area

630
00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:07,500
and it it's palpable uh

631
00:24:13,610 --> 00:24:09,840
people who are sensitive go there it's

632
00:24:15,470 --> 00:24:13,620
it's like you know you can feel it and I

633
00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:15,480
mean that's the first thing I I sensed

634
00:24:21,169 --> 00:24:17,520
with the first time I went there

635
00:24:23,630 --> 00:24:21,179
so um there's a lot of connection there

636
00:24:24,770 --> 00:24:23,640
yeah no absolutely and and what's kind

637
00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:24,780
of funny this is kind of getting away

638
00:24:28,610 --> 00:24:27,120
from Mothman for a second but uh a lot

639
00:24:31,730 --> 00:24:28,620
of what Point Pleasant reminds me of is

640
00:24:33,409 --> 00:24:31,740
it's that trickster Vibe and uh if we if

641
00:24:34,909 --> 00:24:33,419
we want to go into it we have a pretty

642
00:24:37,730 --> 00:24:34,919
interesting little trickster story we

643
00:24:39,950 --> 00:24:37,740
were doing a YouTube video uh completely

644
00:24:41,930 --> 00:24:39,960
non-paranormal related yeah we were

645
00:24:44,029 --> 00:24:41,940
covering a a strange app and we're

646
00:24:45,289 --> 00:24:44,039
actually looking to kind of explain how

647
00:24:46,430 --> 00:24:45,299
the app worked the app's called Rando

648
00:24:49,490 --> 00:24:46,440
Nautica I'm sure you've talked about it

649
00:24:51,230 --> 00:24:49,500
on the show before and uh we had this

650
00:24:52,490 --> 00:24:51,240
very weird experience where like I said

651
00:24:53,690 --> 00:24:52,500
we were filming a video and we're just

652
00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:53,700
kind of trying to explain how the app

653
00:24:57,770 --> 00:24:56,159
works how it you know you kind of plant

654
00:24:58,730 --> 00:24:57,780
the idea out then your brain will start

655
00:25:01,610 --> 00:24:58,740
to point things out like if you're

656
00:25:03,649 --> 00:25:01,620
thinking of the color red or or you know

657
00:25:06,049 --> 00:25:03,659
anger or something you'll start to to

658
00:25:07,850 --> 00:25:06,059
see things like that in this app when

659
00:25:10,130 --> 00:25:07,860
you go to the random locations well we

660
00:25:13,610 --> 00:25:10,140
were at a golf course in tip City Ohio

661
00:25:17,210 --> 00:25:13,620
it was a disc golf course and the points

662
00:25:18,950 --> 00:25:17,220
led us to a a small wooded area and

663
00:25:20,750 --> 00:25:18,960
again this wasn't supposed to be high

664
00:25:21,770 --> 00:25:20,760
strangest paranormal related to any any

665
00:25:24,350 --> 00:25:21,780
sort

666
00:25:26,450 --> 00:25:24,360
and we are filming at this time and the

667
00:25:28,190 --> 00:25:26,460
videos up on our YouTube channel we walk

668
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:28,200
into the small wooded area and we

669
00:25:32,769 --> 00:25:30,480
capture on film this

670
00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:32,779
I don't know what to call it creature

671
00:25:36,950 --> 00:25:35,520
we've changed our opinions and Minds

672
00:25:40,610 --> 00:25:36,960
about a hundred times on what this thing

673
00:25:43,310 --> 00:25:40,620
could be but it moves so quickly that we

674
00:25:45,289 --> 00:25:43,320
had to slow it down 120x just to be able

675
00:25:47,450 --> 00:25:45,299
to see a glimpse of this thing and I was

676
00:25:49,610 --> 00:25:47,460
filming and what kind of stood out to me

677
00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:49,620
is like Brittany said at the before we

678
00:25:54,769 --> 00:25:51,840
started the show I'm six six six seven

679
00:25:57,169 --> 00:25:54,779
this thing was as big as I was and it

680
00:25:58,789 --> 00:25:57,179
was moving so fast that it it frightened

681
00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:58,799
me it scared me because I've never seen

682
00:26:03,529 --> 00:26:01,440
something as big as me move that fast

683
00:26:05,269 --> 00:26:03,539
and it just kind of reminds you of a lot

684
00:26:07,070 --> 00:26:05,279
of the stories in Point Pleasant where

685
00:26:08,570 --> 00:26:07,080
most of the things were happening in

686
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:08,580
Point Pleasant were they weren't

687
00:26:11,630 --> 00:26:10,080
paranormal investigators they were

688
00:26:13,730 --> 00:26:11,640
farmers they were just local residents

689
00:26:14,990 --> 00:26:13,740
who were taking the trash out and then

690
00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:15,000
all of a sudden mothman's on top of

691
00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:17,279
their you know on top of their barn or

692
00:26:20,510 --> 00:26:18,960
they were going to check out the crops

693
00:26:22,490 --> 00:26:20,520
and they would find mutilated you know

694
00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:22,500
dogs out in the field those sorts of

695
00:26:26,810 --> 00:26:25,200
things were very common back then and it

696
00:26:29,090 --> 00:26:26,820
just kind of brings up the like I said

697
00:26:30,289 --> 00:26:29,100
the trickster Vibe or the randomness of

698
00:26:31,730 --> 00:26:30,299
high strangest and I think Point

699
00:26:34,250 --> 00:26:31,740
Pleasant really

700
00:26:37,970 --> 00:26:34,260
just is the home of that embodies that

701
00:26:41,450 --> 00:26:39,470
um I'm gonna ask you a couple questions

702
00:26:44,090 --> 00:26:41,460
if you guys don't mind

703
00:26:46,730 --> 00:26:44,100
um Nancy Malcolm is has anyone heard any

704
00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:46,740
news from injured cold concerning UFOs

705
00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:48,000
et's

706
00:26:51,769 --> 00:26:49,440
Etc

707
00:26:53,690 --> 00:26:51,779
so uh about that no I don't know I

708
00:26:55,549 --> 00:26:53,700
mentioned I don't know and look I I'm

709
00:26:57,169 --> 00:26:55,559
gonna answer that too but I want to hear

710
00:26:59,870 --> 00:26:57,179
what you have to say

711
00:27:01,430 --> 00:26:59,880
I I know a few years ago there was uh

712
00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:01,440
maybe a year and a half ago someone was

713
00:27:04,490 --> 00:27:02,880
posting on Reddit and a few other

714
00:27:07,070 --> 00:27:04,500
various forms saying that they were in

715
00:27:09,470 --> 00:27:07,080
contact with injured cold

716
00:27:12,350 --> 00:27:09,480
um through a ghost box app on their

717
00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:12,360
phone and the problem with this ghostbox

718
00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:14,159
app and I'm not going to drag the person

719
00:27:17,930 --> 00:27:16,559
publicly because I it's just one of

720
00:27:19,810 --> 00:27:17,940
those things but the the person who

721
00:27:23,930 --> 00:27:19,820
created the app was a well-known Hoster

722
00:27:25,610 --> 00:27:23,940
and this app when we we looked at it on

723
00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:25,620
our show and kind of tore it down a

724
00:27:30,409 --> 00:27:27,840
little bit and we found that it was

725
00:27:32,210 --> 00:27:30,419
playing very popular sound clips from

726
00:27:34,549 --> 00:27:32,220
various television shows movies and

727
00:27:36,289 --> 00:27:34,559
radio and it was adding a filter or

728
00:27:39,950 --> 00:27:36,299
playing it back or just slowing it down

729
00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:39,960
so I don't necessarily uh I don't know

730
00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:42,240
of anyone that I have come in contact

731
00:27:45,890 --> 00:27:43,919
with or I investigate with her trust

732
00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:45,900
that that has had contact with injury

733
00:27:49,130 --> 00:27:47,520
cold with the exception of if you want

734
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:49,140
to go the hell you're I was gonna say

735
00:27:52,430 --> 00:27:50,159
hell yeah

736
00:27:54,529 --> 00:27:52,440
um you know I I do think that some of

737
00:27:56,570 --> 00:27:54,539
the injured Mystique rather it's injured

738
00:27:58,130 --> 00:27:56,580
himself his family or what have you I

739
00:28:00,169 --> 00:27:58,140
think that made it itself apparent in

740
00:28:02,090 --> 00:28:00,179
the Hellyer series but we we are aware

741
00:28:05,090 --> 00:28:02,100
of anyone as far as I know

742
00:28:06,250 --> 00:28:05,100
well here I had an incident with a team

743
00:28:09,110 --> 00:28:06,260
member

744
00:28:11,210 --> 00:28:09,120
uh or somebody who's affiliated with the

745
00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:11,220
team and I don't know if I talked about

746
00:28:15,529 --> 00:28:12,720
this when I was on your show I don't

747
00:28:17,870 --> 00:28:15,539
think I did but anyway

748
00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:17,880
um this this friend of his lives up in

749
00:28:23,690 --> 00:28:19,679
Upstate New York

750
00:28:26,510 --> 00:28:23,700
and she was outside outside her house

751
00:28:28,490 --> 00:28:26,520
and she saw a winged humanoid

752
00:28:31,630 --> 00:28:28,500
and it really shocked her she you know

753
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:31,640
she was absolutely shocked

754
00:28:36,409 --> 00:28:34,559
and she ran into the house

755
00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:36,419
and she called

756
00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:39,360
this a friend of mine this affiliate and

757
00:28:42,649 --> 00:28:41,279
was telling him about it and as she was

758
00:28:46,610 --> 00:28:42,659
on the phone with him

759
00:28:50,029 --> 00:28:46,620
she got a she got a phone call that came

760
00:28:53,870 --> 00:28:50,039
up on her phone and the uh the eye the

761
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:53,880
caller ID was injured cold and she she

762
00:28:59,690 --> 00:28:57,120
actually so spelled it out

763
00:29:03,289 --> 00:28:59,700
to this gentleman

764
00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:03,299
and when she when she answered the phone

765
00:29:07,789 --> 00:29:05,760
and this is like five minutes or 10

766
00:29:09,970 --> 00:29:07,799
minutes after she had the encounter and

767
00:29:13,130 --> 00:29:09,980
she hadn't talked to anybody

768
00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:13,140
and when she

769
00:29:19,730 --> 00:29:16,320
you know put him on pause and and call

770
00:29:21,950 --> 00:29:19,740
waiting and and answered the call

771
00:29:24,130 --> 00:29:21,960
the person on the other side of the of

772
00:29:30,049 --> 00:29:24,140
the phone said

773
00:29:34,370 --> 00:29:32,389
and that was it

774
00:29:35,990 --> 00:29:34,380
now she didn't know anything about

775
00:29:38,510 --> 00:29:36,000
injured cold

776
00:29:42,590 --> 00:29:38,520
but that's what came up on the phone ID

777
00:29:45,769 --> 00:29:42,600
the caller ID so he did he went up there

778
00:29:48,590 --> 00:29:45,779
uh she did see this winged humanoid

779
00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:48,600
later that day got a glimpse of it

780
00:29:52,250 --> 00:29:49,919
outside

781
00:29:54,889 --> 00:29:52,260
the you know with the window

782
00:29:56,810 --> 00:29:54,899
but when he went up there there has

783
00:29:58,430 --> 00:29:56,820
there was some paranormal activity in

784
00:29:59,990 --> 00:29:58,440
the house but other than that that was

785
00:30:02,210 --> 00:30:00,000
and I actually

786
00:30:04,130 --> 00:30:02,220
I actually put this past a couple

787
00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:04,140
ufologists a couple of people who were

788
00:30:09,470 --> 00:30:06,799
pretty well versed and injured cold

789
00:30:12,529 --> 00:30:09,480
and uh

790
00:30:17,690 --> 00:30:12,539
the one gentleman who I'm very familiar

791
00:30:22,430 --> 00:30:19,730
uh Ray Keller who's the history

792
00:30:25,730 --> 00:30:22,440
Professor but he's a ufologist in fact

793
00:30:27,950 --> 00:30:25,740
he he has a lot of the great worker

794
00:30:30,350 --> 00:30:27,960
files uh

795
00:30:32,810 --> 00:30:30,360
that you know in his in his collection

796
00:30:34,430 --> 00:30:32,820
and stuff but anyway

797
00:30:36,350 --> 00:30:34,440
he's written several books about the

798
00:30:38,690 --> 00:30:36,360
venetians and such

799
00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:38,700
uh he believes that intercold is still

800
00:30:41,389 --> 00:30:39,840
around

801
00:30:44,510 --> 00:30:41,399
and he believes it's working with the

802
00:30:48,529 --> 00:30:44,520
government and I asked him I said why

803
00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:48,539
why how how did this supposed injured

804
00:30:52,430 --> 00:30:50,640
cold on the phone get in contact with

805
00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:52,440
her I mean it's almost like the Men in

806
00:30:57,110 --> 00:30:54,480
Black scenario I was literally just

807
00:30:59,330 --> 00:30:57,120
about to say yeah you see something and

808
00:31:01,549 --> 00:30:59,340
then you get you know they show up

809
00:31:04,909 --> 00:31:01,559
uh before you even have time to report

810
00:31:06,769 --> 00:31:04,919
it but yeah that's this is still an

811
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:06,779
enigma with us

812
00:31:12,529 --> 00:31:09,120
um but yeah that but that did actually

813
00:31:14,690 --> 00:31:12,539
happen bizarre bizarre well to kind of

814
00:31:17,269 --> 00:31:14,700
piggyback off that um and this is just a

815
00:31:19,610 --> 00:31:17,279
Men In Black story less than it is a uh

816
00:31:21,529 --> 00:31:19,620
Android store we have a listener who has

817
00:31:24,169 --> 00:31:21,539
been a one of the day one listeners and

818
00:31:26,810 --> 00:31:24,179
it's a gentleman that I trust a lot and

819
00:31:31,970 --> 00:31:26,820
he I can't say the state but he he works

820
00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:31,980
at a jail and um pretty nearby is a

821
00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:33,360
couple different mines that are still

822
00:31:37,850 --> 00:31:35,039
being actively used here in the US and

823
00:31:40,430 --> 00:31:37,860
then uh SpaceX has a a pretty good

824
00:31:41,930 --> 00:31:40,440
foothold in this area and he's over the

825
00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:41,940
past couple years sent me several

826
00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:44,399
stories of saying hey Bob you know I was

827
00:31:49,130 --> 00:31:47,760
working night shift and we we had a and

828
00:31:51,769 --> 00:31:49,140
there's an awesome Air Force Base

829
00:31:53,930 --> 00:31:51,779
relatively nearby and I'll say you know

830
00:31:55,490 --> 00:31:53,940
we had an Airman come in he had too much

831
00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:55,500
to drink and you know he got thrown in

832
00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:56,960
the drunk tank for the night

833
00:32:01,789 --> 00:32:00,240
Well normally he says you know they'll

834
00:32:03,470 --> 00:32:01,799
call the commander it'll kind of turn

835
00:32:05,090 --> 00:32:03,480
into a thing and then the guy will sleep

836
00:32:07,490 --> 00:32:05,100
it off the next day he'll get released

837
00:32:10,850 --> 00:32:07,500
what have you well in a couple of these

838
00:32:13,370 --> 00:32:10,860
instances he's had these guys pull up

839
00:32:15,289 --> 00:32:13,380
and they always park right off the

840
00:32:16,909 --> 00:32:15,299
camera angles of the jail that he works

841
00:32:18,830 --> 00:32:16,919
in it's like they know exactly where the

842
00:32:21,710 --> 00:32:18,840
camera angles are and they'll walk into

843
00:32:23,450 --> 00:32:21,720
frame and they they do match the Men in

844
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:23,460
Black type of tire that we've kind of

845
00:32:27,710 --> 00:32:25,440
come accustomed to but it's more modern

846
00:32:30,289 --> 00:32:27,720
it's more you know the Armani suits

847
00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:30,299
versus the old you know JC Penney suits

848
00:32:33,950 --> 00:32:31,679
that we've come to imagine through the

849
00:32:35,090 --> 00:32:33,960
various books and they'll come in and

850
00:32:38,090 --> 00:32:35,100
say hey

851
00:32:39,710 --> 00:32:38,100
um so and so has been arrested uh here's

852
00:32:40,669 --> 00:32:39,720
our ID we're taking him into custody for

853
00:32:42,889 --> 00:32:40,679
the night

854
00:32:44,149 --> 00:32:42,899
go ahead and release them to our custody

855
00:32:45,529 --> 00:32:44,159
and every single time we'll call his

856
00:32:47,570 --> 00:32:45,539
boss and his boss will say yep you have

857
00:32:49,789 --> 00:32:47,580
to release them uh they have you know

858
00:32:51,529 --> 00:32:49,799
ultimate Authority well he started to

859
00:32:53,149 --> 00:32:51,539
research into some of these Airmen that

860
00:32:54,830 --> 00:32:53,159
have been arrested put in the drunk tank

861
00:32:56,510 --> 00:32:54,840
for various things and it turns out that

862
00:32:58,010 --> 00:32:56,520
every single one of these guys has a

863
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:58,020
connection with SpaceX they're working

864
00:33:01,490 --> 00:32:59,760
on the contract doing security for the

865
00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:01,500
mines or what have you

866
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:03,840
and he's pretty confident this is a Men

867
00:33:07,310 --> 00:33:05,760
In Black type scenario that that there's

868
00:33:08,690 --> 00:33:07,320
some interconnection that they have the

869
00:33:10,370 --> 00:33:08,700
ultimate poll to just come and say hey

870
00:33:12,769 --> 00:33:10,380
this guy's not going into jail don't

871
00:33:14,990 --> 00:33:12,779
don't publish it in public record he's

872
00:33:16,430 --> 00:33:15,000
he was never here and that seems to

873
00:33:17,450 --> 00:33:16,440
happen about once every three or four

874
00:33:19,549 --> 00:33:17,460
months they'll send me a message saying

875
00:33:21,230 --> 00:33:19,559
hey it happened again here's here's the

876
00:33:23,570 --> 00:33:21,240
story here's the details and it's he's

877
00:33:25,009 --> 00:33:23,580
the guy's a straight shooter uh call us

878
00:33:26,090 --> 00:33:25,019
I don't know it calls a bunch of the

879
00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:26,100
stories we talk about on the show he's

880
00:33:30,169 --> 00:33:27,600
like hey I don't buy into this crap this

881
00:33:31,370 --> 00:33:30,179
is nonsense but he's one of the types of

882
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:31,380
guys who when he says something you

883
00:33:35,810 --> 00:33:33,360
listen and it he always has so much

884
00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:35,820
detail it's either this guy is a much

885
00:33:39,889 --> 00:33:38,640
better writer than I'll ever be or what

886
00:33:41,090 --> 00:33:39,899
he's is claiming is happening is

887
00:33:42,350 --> 00:33:41,100
actually happening and we've been trying

888
00:33:45,529 --> 00:33:42,360
to get him on the show we've offered to

889
00:33:47,870 --> 00:33:45,539
do a uh like a voice over you know like

890
00:33:49,310 --> 00:33:47,880
a deep throat type of uh you know voice

891
00:33:50,330 --> 00:33:49,320
effect and he just he doesn't want to

892
00:33:51,649 --> 00:33:50,340
come on the show he's afraid of what

893
00:33:53,930 --> 00:33:51,659
will happen he said that he's had some

894
00:33:56,330 --> 00:33:53,940
other people that he's worked with uh

895
00:33:57,889 --> 00:33:56,340
speak out spill the veins Spill the

896
00:34:00,110 --> 00:33:57,899
Beans tell folks and then all of a

897
00:34:01,730 --> 00:34:00,120
sudden they no longer have jobs or they

898
00:34:03,470 --> 00:34:01,740
will get incarcerated themselves for

899
00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:03,480
something and he said these guys will be

900
00:34:08,030 --> 00:34:06,720
you know ex-military you know non uh

901
00:34:09,369 --> 00:34:08,040
recreational drug users and suddenly

902
00:34:12,530 --> 00:34:09,379
look at your drug charge out of nowhere

903
00:34:14,510 --> 00:34:12,540
and they will get 10 15 years in jail

904
00:34:16,129 --> 00:34:14,520
and it's it's crazy that this it's one

905
00:34:17,629 --> 00:34:16,139
it's happened to him I think he said six

906
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:17,639
or seven times he said the first few he

907
00:34:21,889 --> 00:34:19,679
kind of looked and he's like oh well a

908
00:34:23,389 --> 00:34:21,899
couple Bad Eggs things happen but after

909
00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:23,399
we said like the sixth seventh time he's

910
00:34:26,450 --> 00:34:24,480
like and these are people that he

911
00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:26,460
trained on his shift he knew him he

912
00:34:30,109 --> 00:34:27,599
would go to dinner with their families

913
00:34:31,369 --> 00:34:30,119
and he knew that he wasn't uh you know

914
00:34:32,750 --> 00:34:31,379
that those kind of guys weren't doing

915
00:34:34,310 --> 00:34:32,760
those sorts of things and then all of a

916
00:34:36,349 --> 00:34:34,320
sudden they would talk to Media they

917
00:34:37,849 --> 00:34:36,359
would post it on Facebook two three days

918
00:34:42,050 --> 00:34:37,859
later they'd lose their jobs and be in

919
00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:43,970
hmm

920
00:34:48,829 --> 00:34:45,839
that's interesting

921
00:34:51,349 --> 00:34:48,839
now you know I've been I you know it is

922
00:34:54,530 --> 00:34:51,359
I've been approached by um

923
00:34:56,089 --> 00:34:54,540
the government types in the past

924
00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:56,099
um about certain things I'd be

925
00:35:00,530 --> 00:34:57,359
investigating

926
00:35:03,530 --> 00:35:00,540
and I'd be asked very nicely to back off

927
00:35:05,690 --> 00:35:03,540
and I I would comply I mean I'm not

928
00:35:06,890 --> 00:35:05,700
getting into trouble for anybody quite

929
00:35:08,210 --> 00:35:06,900
Frank with you

930
00:35:11,329 --> 00:35:08,220
and

931
00:35:13,490 --> 00:35:11,339
um they do that they they do I mean they

932
00:35:16,130 --> 00:35:13,500
will do that but as far as the Men in

933
00:35:17,690 --> 00:35:16,140
Black and all that behind that

934
00:35:20,930 --> 00:35:17,700
that is scary

935
00:35:27,710 --> 00:35:25,069
hmm I uh I got another question here

936
00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:27,720
uh from Vincent he said could Mothman be

937
00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:30,180
a century from the Native Americans now

938
00:35:37,010 --> 00:35:32,640
he's piggybacking off one of my theories

939
00:35:40,670 --> 00:35:38,450
um I mean that's an interesting thought

940
00:35:41,930 --> 00:35:40,680
I mean the thing is with what we found

941
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:41,940
so we have a series called United

942
00:35:47,329 --> 00:35:44,640
strangest of America and we will

943
00:35:49,970 --> 00:35:47,339
literally dive into uh three to five

944
00:35:52,490 --> 00:35:49,980
stories of Cryptids paranormal and UFOs

945
00:35:53,870 --> 00:35:52,500
in each state individually and the goal

946
00:35:55,849 --> 00:35:53,880
of the series is to kind of draw

947
00:35:57,470 --> 00:35:55,859
parallels between them and okay well

948
00:35:59,810 --> 00:35:57,480
this happened in Minnesota it's also

949
00:36:01,910 --> 00:35:59,820
happening in Oklahoma so this has you

950
00:36:04,490 --> 00:36:01,920
know a consistent uh

951
00:36:06,410 --> 00:36:04,500
history of happening so what I've

952
00:36:09,230 --> 00:36:06,420
learned with Native American lore and

953
00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:09,240
folklore specifically there is so much

954
00:36:14,270 --> 00:36:11,280
not talked about that I would not be

955
00:36:17,150 --> 00:36:14,280
shocked that if in 10 years we suddenly

956
00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:17,160
have stories of a flying humanoid out of

957
00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:19,440
Utah that has been passed down in the

958
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:22,079
Uinta Basin for the past 300 years so I

959
00:36:26,210 --> 00:36:24,720
could definitely see that I think we at

960
00:36:28,250 --> 00:36:26,220
least right now if you ask me in a month

961
00:36:30,290 --> 00:36:28,260
it'll change I think right now we kind

962
00:36:32,089 --> 00:36:30,300
of are on the uh the thought process of

963
00:36:33,770 --> 00:36:32,099
the interdimensional Mothman just

964
00:36:36,050 --> 00:36:33,780
because of as we talked about on your

965
00:36:38,450 --> 00:36:36,060
when you were on our show here right

966
00:36:40,370 --> 00:36:38,460
um the the Chicago sightings and then we

967
00:36:42,890 --> 00:36:40,380
have the sightings we cover over in

968
00:36:44,690 --> 00:36:42,900
Chernobyl and all these various uh it

969
00:36:49,450 --> 00:36:44,700
could be a family of Mothman but my only

970
00:36:52,130 --> 00:36:49,460
issue with the the family theory is the

971
00:36:54,109 --> 00:36:52,140
the the personalities seem to line up

972
00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:54,119
one to one and the majority of these

973
00:36:57,770 --> 00:36:56,400
cases and there are a few outliers but

974
00:36:59,150 --> 00:36:57,780
in the majority of the cases they see

975
00:37:00,589 --> 00:36:59,160
they seems to be describing the exact

976
00:37:03,470 --> 00:37:00,599
same creature doing the exact same

977
00:37:07,849 --> 00:37:05,930
well my theory on the Mothman Point

978
00:37:09,410 --> 00:37:07,859
Pleasant and I may have talked about

979
00:37:10,790 --> 00:37:09,420
this on the show but then again I don't

980
00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:10,800
know if I did and I know people here

981
00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:13,200
have heard me before but I think it's a

982
00:37:18,109 --> 00:37:15,359
summoned entity

983
00:37:19,730 --> 00:37:18,119
and the reason I say that is I have done

984
00:37:22,190 --> 00:37:19,740
a lot of

985
00:37:24,170 --> 00:37:22,200
worked over at the West Virginia

986
00:37:26,589 --> 00:37:24,180
Ordinance Works the TNT plan whatever

987
00:37:30,410 --> 00:37:26,599
you want to call it early on

988
00:37:31,370 --> 00:37:30,420
and uh there is a very strong in

989
00:37:33,890 --> 00:37:31,380
business

990
00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:33,900
Spirit energy there

991
00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:37,200
I think around the time when the Mothman

992
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:38,880
started showing up people started

993
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:40,800
noticing it around the plant and around

994
00:37:47,870 --> 00:37:44,160
town and around Mason County

995
00:37:50,450 --> 00:37:47,880
um I think that Energy felt threatened

996
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:50,460
because all the young adults and young

997
00:37:53,569 --> 00:37:52,320
kids and stuff hanging around at the

998
00:37:56,810 --> 00:37:53,579
plant

999
00:37:59,150 --> 00:37:56,820
and I think the Mothman was a summon

1000
00:38:03,910 --> 00:37:59,160
being from another dimension as a

1001
00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:08,150
I think it's remained since then

1002
00:38:12,530 --> 00:38:10,320
I I love that you that you said that

1003
00:38:13,970 --> 00:38:12,540
that it was summoned because uh when we

1004
00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:13,980
first started Tales from the dark and

1005
00:38:17,150 --> 00:38:15,720
you kind of just like reminded me of

1006
00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:17,160
this

1007
00:38:21,230 --> 00:38:19,140
um I was in contact with somebody over

1008
00:38:22,490 --> 00:38:21,240
on Reddit if I I don't I know I don't

1009
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:22,500
have the conversations anymore because

1010
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:24,720
Reddit doesn't allow you to save them if

1011
00:38:28,609 --> 00:38:25,920
you don't communicate with the person

1012
00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:28,619
right but I had someone bring up

1013
00:38:34,609 --> 00:38:32,640
um hey I I am in touch with a local uh

1014
00:38:36,170 --> 00:38:34,619
they kept saying satanic cult over and

1015
00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:36,180
over and over and and I when I hear

1016
00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:37,920
something at quote I roll my eyes nine

1017
00:38:42,470 --> 00:38:40,320
times out of ten but they said you know

1018
00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:42,480
this was I think in Indianapolis or

1019
00:38:45,530 --> 00:38:44,160
somewhere in Indiana and they said these

1020
00:38:48,109 --> 00:38:45,540
guys are responsible for the Chicago

1021
00:38:49,790 --> 00:38:48,119
Mothman sightings and I said well what

1022
00:38:51,170 --> 00:38:49,800
do you what do you mean responsible can

1023
00:38:53,690 --> 00:38:51,180
you explain it's like well I talked to

1024
00:38:55,069 --> 00:38:53,700
the girl uh she's my uh co-worker's

1025
00:38:57,530 --> 00:38:55,079
sister or something along those lines I

1026
00:39:00,290 --> 00:38:57,540
don't remember the lineage exactly but

1027
00:39:01,910 --> 00:39:00,300
they had done some type of a ritual and

1028
00:39:03,470 --> 00:39:01,920
they were consistently doing this ritual

1029
00:39:05,150 --> 00:39:03,480
because they thought that something

1030
00:39:07,310 --> 00:39:05,160
horrible was coming to this part of the

1031
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:07,320
country and they summoned the Mothman

1032
00:39:11,390 --> 00:39:08,400
and that was their

1033
00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:11,400
goal and it was one of those things that

1034
00:39:14,329 --> 00:39:13,200
at the time I kind of just pushed the

1035
00:39:16,069 --> 00:39:14,339
back of my head I'm like yeah sure

1036
00:39:17,390 --> 00:39:16,079
because when I press for information hey

1037
00:39:19,790 --> 00:39:17,400
can you get me in contact with these

1038
00:39:21,650 --> 00:39:19,800
people of course they couldn't oh well

1039
00:39:23,150 --> 00:39:21,660
I'm just telling you second hand or

1040
00:39:24,829 --> 00:39:23,160
they're not interested in talking to

1041
00:39:26,210 --> 00:39:24,839
anybody you know they'll be upset if I

1042
00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:26,220
even if they knew that I told you and

1043
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:27,359
I'm sure you get these all the time you

1044
00:39:30,650 --> 00:39:29,040
get people who tell you crazy stories

1045
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:30,660
but it it's just weird that it kind of

1046
00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:31,920
lines up with your theory there that

1047
00:39:35,329 --> 00:39:33,359
they were summoned so I kind of kind of

1048
00:39:37,609 --> 00:39:35,339
loved that little connection there well

1049
00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:37,619
we have looked into that theory

1050
00:39:42,109 --> 00:39:40,680
during the Chicago investigation and we

1051
00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:42,119
looked into a lot of different stuff

1052
00:39:47,630 --> 00:39:44,640
I've had people down in Indiana have had

1053
00:39:49,730 --> 00:39:47,640
people in Chicago itself who were

1054
00:39:53,329 --> 00:39:49,740
classified themselves as witches

1055
00:39:56,710 --> 00:39:53,339
occultists that that literally

1056
00:40:01,190 --> 00:39:56,720
attempted to summon some type of being

1057
00:40:04,910 --> 00:40:01,200
one actually contacted Tobias Whalen uh

1058
00:40:06,170 --> 00:40:04,920
and told him that they had done a ritual

1059
00:40:09,010 --> 00:40:06,180
where they thought they opened the

1060
00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:09,020
doorway and then released the Mothman or

1061
00:40:14,630 --> 00:40:12,000
winged humanoids onto the public I don't

1062
00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:14,640
know uh it was an interesting it was an

1063
00:40:19,550 --> 00:40:16,800
interesting story but you know I I don't

1064
00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:19,560
know how much I put into it

1065
00:40:23,150 --> 00:40:20,400
um

1066
00:40:25,010 --> 00:40:23,160
but you know this theory about the

1067
00:40:26,930 --> 00:40:25,020
Mothman at Point Pleasant has been

1068
00:40:30,410 --> 00:40:26,940
something I've been

1069
00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:30,420
I I felt strong about for at least 15

1070
00:40:33,710 --> 00:40:31,680
years now

1071
00:40:37,250 --> 00:40:33,720
and um

1072
00:40:40,010 --> 00:40:37,260
when we started working on the Chicago

1073
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:40,020
investigation especially when it started

1074
00:40:45,470 --> 00:40:43,200
happening at O'Hara res I mean very

1075
00:40:48,890 --> 00:40:45,480
regularly and there was one part over

1076
00:40:52,130 --> 00:40:48,900
here where it was showing up a lot

1077
00:40:56,030 --> 00:40:52,140
that kind of reinforced my

1078
00:40:58,730 --> 00:40:56,040
thoughts that if it wasn't summoned

1079
00:41:02,030 --> 00:40:58,740
it was coming in through a portal of

1080
00:41:06,650 --> 00:41:02,040
some type or from a linear dimension

1081
00:41:09,829 --> 00:41:06,660
like a rip in reality absolutely yeah

1082
00:41:12,650 --> 00:41:09,839
and that that image that that he's that

1083
00:41:14,990 --> 00:41:12,660
uh Vincent is showing right now is one

1084
00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:15,000
of the the entities we have had contact

1085
00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:18,000
with who refer to themselves as the

1086
00:41:23,150 --> 00:41:20,640
Unseen ones and they they do explain the

1087
00:41:25,069 --> 00:41:23,160
different types of beings and the

1088
00:41:27,589 --> 00:41:25,079
different looks they have and you know

1089
00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:27,599
but um

1090
00:41:33,550 --> 00:41:30,960
but I I do believe regardless of that

1091
00:41:38,210 --> 00:41:33,560
that there there is an interdimensional

1092
00:41:41,210 --> 00:41:38,220
aspect to these creatures so um you know

1093
00:41:43,849 --> 00:41:41,220
it it kind of piggybacks on top of what

1094
00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:43,859
we that my theory was which with the

1095
00:41:51,650 --> 00:41:50,030
I could absolutely see that being the

1096
00:41:54,589 --> 00:41:51,660
case and and when it comes to the

1097
00:41:56,569 --> 00:41:54,599
summoning of of these creatures and and

1098
00:41:58,730 --> 00:41:56,579
looking Beyond the Veil or behind the

1099
00:42:00,410 --> 00:41:58,740
veil or however you want to say it I

1100
00:42:02,030 --> 00:42:00,420
think one thing that we definitely want

1101
00:42:06,530 --> 00:42:02,040
to keep in mind

1102
00:42:08,210 --> 00:42:06,540
during that kind of research is if you

1103
00:42:10,250 --> 00:42:08,220
talk to let's say we could talk to

1104
00:42:12,410 --> 00:42:10,260
animals right let's say we talk to a

1105
00:42:14,270 --> 00:42:12,420
lion the lion would say that they're top

1106
00:42:16,250 --> 00:42:14,280
of the food chain and lion would say

1107
00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:16,260
that they could do anything that a human

1108
00:42:20,210 --> 00:42:18,240
could do they would say that you know

1109
00:42:22,010 --> 00:42:20,220
all these different things I think when

1110
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:22,020
we talk about these different creatures

1111
00:42:26,210 --> 00:42:24,240
or phenomenons in these different camps

1112
00:42:29,329 --> 00:42:26,220
we have to keep in mind that their food

1113
00:42:33,650 --> 00:42:29,339
chain analysis might be

1114
00:42:35,690 --> 00:42:33,660
swayed by biased so the let's say

1115
00:42:37,849 --> 00:42:35,700
Mothman might say that he rules over the

1116
00:42:41,329 --> 00:42:37,859
Unseen ones or the Unseen ones say well

1117
00:42:43,790 --> 00:42:41,339
we actually rule over the menusians sure

1118
00:42:47,089 --> 00:42:43,800
um the connection I feel that we are

1119
00:42:49,069 --> 00:42:47,099
trying to place between these beings and

1120
00:42:50,450 --> 00:42:49,079
and whether it be in summonings or

1121
00:42:53,089 --> 00:42:50,460
whether it be through Spirit Box

1122
00:42:54,770 --> 00:42:53,099
Communications uh because there has

1123
00:42:57,530 --> 00:42:54,780
actually been some very compelling

1124
00:43:00,050 --> 00:42:57,540
evidence when it comes to uh spearbox

1125
00:43:02,930 --> 00:43:00,060
sessions in the domes when it comes to

1126
00:43:05,150 --> 00:43:02,940
uh the Estus method and using that as a

1127
00:43:07,849 --> 00:43:05,160
way to communicate with higher beings

1128
00:43:09,890 --> 00:43:07,859
I've got I've got several very

1129
00:43:13,309 --> 00:43:09,900
compelling EVPs out of one of those

1130
00:43:16,190 --> 00:43:13,319
Dooms yeah the domes are very very

1131
00:43:18,650 --> 00:43:16,200
energized in my opinion yeah absolutely

1132
00:43:20,930 --> 00:43:18,660
but with these connections we have to

1133
00:43:23,089 --> 00:43:20,940
kind of make a mental note of the bias

1134
00:43:25,970 --> 00:43:23,099
that would come from

1135
00:43:28,010 --> 00:43:25,980
these beings and and their place when it

1136
00:43:31,370 --> 00:43:28,020
comes to the universe or the universes

1137
00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:31,380
or however however our Ultimate Reality

1138
00:43:34,670 --> 00:43:33,119
is built

1139
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:34,680
um so that's just something I just kind

1140
00:43:39,650 --> 00:43:36,319
of want to put in there

1141
00:43:43,069 --> 00:43:39,660
yeah uh and people who are asking about

1142
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:43,079
recent sightings in the chat at Chicago

1143
00:43:49,250 --> 00:43:46,560
we did have one sighting recently it in

1144
00:43:51,470 --> 00:43:49,260
little little village again

1145
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:51,480
and I will be covering that on Wednesday

1146
00:43:57,650 --> 00:43:54,960
we just got a report in today from

1147
00:43:59,329 --> 00:43:57,660
O'Hare from the fire department some

1148
00:44:02,510 --> 00:43:59,339
people who worked set worked at the fire

1149
00:44:05,089 --> 00:44:02,520
department at O'Hare they have sightings

1150
00:44:07,130 --> 00:44:05,099
so we will be talking about that we will

1151
00:44:10,490 --> 00:44:07,140
be posting that we got to talk to the

1152
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:10,500
witnesses uh Manuel is going to follow

1153
00:44:14,329 --> 00:44:12,960
up on that so yeah the the sightings are

1154
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:14,339
picking up again

1155
00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:16,800
so I am just going to say that I'm sorry

1156
00:44:19,970 --> 00:44:18,240
to interrupt you all but I just want to

1157
00:44:21,530 --> 00:44:19,980
mention that yeah I know you're totally

1158
00:44:23,569 --> 00:44:21,540
fine

1159
00:44:28,490 --> 00:44:26,809
yeah so Jose as which is funny one was

1160
00:44:31,670 --> 00:44:28,500
the most recent Mothman sighting and

1161
00:44:33,230 --> 00:44:31,680
where well there you go O'Hare was

1162
00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:33,240
a couple weeks ago

1163
00:44:38,030 --> 00:44:36,000
so in in October there was one in like I

1164
00:44:40,490 --> 00:44:38,040
said little village so uh another

1165
00:44:45,050 --> 00:44:40,500
neighborhood in Chicago where we've had

1166
00:44:51,050 --> 00:44:48,470
so uh Bob and Brittany what other

1167
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:51,060
investigation I I saw some photographs

1168
00:44:58,670 --> 00:44:55,440
of images you had of uh the the area 51.

1169
00:45:03,470 --> 00:44:58,680
oh God can you tell us a bit about that

1170
00:45:05,329 --> 00:45:03,480
yeah so for my birthday I don't I don't

1171
00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:05,339
like to uh I don't like to have parties

1172
00:45:10,010 --> 00:45:06,720
I don't like that people are like I'm

1173
00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:10,020
it's kind of weird like I'm the same way

1174
00:45:15,770 --> 00:45:12,960
I don't I I can understand we are not

1175
00:45:19,069 --> 00:45:15,780
very social with when it comes to like

1176
00:45:21,770 --> 00:45:19,079
in our home or or you know locally we'd

1177
00:45:23,569 --> 00:45:21,780
rather travel and CNC things so that's

1178
00:45:25,730 --> 00:45:23,579
what we did for Bob's birthday yeah well

1179
00:45:27,890 --> 00:45:25,740
we we initially uh we were gonna go to

1180
00:45:28,970 --> 00:45:27,900
Eastern Kentucky which next time we're

1181
00:45:30,470 --> 00:45:28,980
on the show we'll tell you all the

1182
00:45:33,050 --> 00:45:30,480
Eastern Kentucky crazy stories because

1183
00:45:34,670 --> 00:45:33,060
that's that's an hour on its own yeah

1184
00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:34,680
um but I said you know Eastern Kentucky

1185
00:45:37,790 --> 00:45:36,240
is going to rain for two straight weeks

1186
00:45:39,650 --> 00:45:37,800
and that's about how long we had for my

1187
00:45:42,290 --> 00:45:39,660
birthday to kind of get off work and to

1188
00:45:44,510 --> 00:45:42,300
just go and do something you know I've

1189
00:45:45,410 --> 00:45:44,520
never seen Colorado I I I'd like to go

1190
00:45:50,390 --> 00:45:45,420
to Denver

1191
00:45:53,089 --> 00:45:50,400
um we spent a few nights there Denver's

1192
00:45:54,530 --> 00:45:53,099
cool it's just too too City for me so

1193
00:45:55,970 --> 00:45:54,540
then we decide well let's go out to

1194
00:45:59,210 --> 00:45:55,980
Estes Park I want to see the Stanley

1195
00:46:01,130 --> 00:45:59,220
Hotel so we got the Stanley Hotel uh we

1196
00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:01,140
had a ton of fun out in Colorado and

1197
00:46:04,790 --> 00:46:02,880
then we were like well let's just keep

1198
00:46:06,109 --> 00:46:04,800
going let's I knew I wanted to go to

1199
00:46:09,470 --> 00:46:06,119
Vegas at some point because I've never

1200
00:46:11,210 --> 00:46:09,480
been so we make our way to California so

1201
00:46:13,790 --> 00:46:11,220
again we're in Ohio so we drove from

1202
00:46:15,470 --> 00:46:13,800
Ohio to California to mount uh Shasta

1203
00:46:19,309 --> 00:46:15,480
and

1204
00:46:21,589 --> 00:46:19,319
got a ton of crazy stories there uh from

1205
00:46:23,930 --> 00:46:21,599
different cult groups to the underground

1206
00:46:25,490 --> 00:46:23,940
civilization yeah the lumerians all

1207
00:46:28,190 --> 00:46:25,500
those conversations we went up on the

1208
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:28,200
mountain uh I I recorded some very cool

1209
00:46:32,569 --> 00:46:30,720
audio of a uh I don't know if it was a

1210
00:46:35,089 --> 00:46:32,579
native American group or who they were

1211
00:46:38,270 --> 00:46:35,099
they were actually um like doing uh like

1212
00:46:40,790 --> 00:46:38,280
a chance drum Mantra which is amazing

1213
00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:40,800
just to see uh saw some strange lights

1214
00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:42,720
in the sky out on top of the mountain

1215
00:46:47,569 --> 00:46:45,599
and then we made our way to Vegas and so

1216
00:46:49,250 --> 00:46:47,579
uh the Black Mailbox they just showed on

1217
00:46:51,109 --> 00:46:49,260
the screen that's anyone that's that

1218
00:46:54,410 --> 00:46:51,119
knows Area 51 Lord knows all about the

1219
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:54,420
Black Mailbox we stopped there and then

1220
00:47:01,250 --> 00:46:58,079
we we went out to Area 51 and first we

1221
00:47:03,530 --> 00:47:01,260
went to the little alien which you know

1222
00:47:05,150 --> 00:47:03,540
I I think I had romanticized that a

1223
00:47:07,210 --> 00:47:05,160
little too much in my mind and it wasn't

1224
00:47:10,010 --> 00:47:07,220
what I anticipated

1225
00:47:12,829 --> 00:47:10,020
everybody goes there says the same thing

1226
00:47:14,510 --> 00:47:12,839
yeah so then we went out to to Area 51

1227
00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:14,520
oh I completely forgot on the way to

1228
00:47:19,550 --> 00:47:16,079
California we stopped the he went to

1229
00:47:21,650 --> 00:47:19,560
Basin went to Skinwalker language oh my

1230
00:47:23,809 --> 00:47:21,660
God yeah we told that story on the

1231
00:47:25,370 --> 00:47:23,819
podcast that we got chased out by a dog

1232
00:47:28,130 --> 00:47:25,380
there were lights in the sky there were

1233
00:47:30,050 --> 00:47:28,140
synchronicities that was an insane story

1234
00:47:31,930 --> 00:47:30,060
all on its own yeah if you want to hear

1235
00:47:34,730 --> 00:47:31,940
that let us know but

1236
00:47:37,490 --> 00:47:34,740
that was a crazy night but anyway the

1237
00:47:39,589 --> 00:47:37,500
area 51 yeah the Aryan 51 the center he

1238
00:47:42,290 --> 00:47:39,599
just showed attached to that is a alien

1239
00:47:44,329 --> 00:47:42,300
brothel hilariously yeah

1240
00:47:46,490 --> 00:47:44,339
um it was like 2 30 in the morning three

1241
00:47:48,349 --> 00:47:46,500
o'clock when we got there and I I drove

1242
00:47:50,930 --> 00:47:48,359
past it I'm like oh I'm just tired that

1243
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:50,940
didn't say alien brothel and then I

1244
00:47:54,190 --> 00:47:52,319
looked I'm like oh that says alien

1245
00:47:56,329 --> 00:47:54,200
brothel that's the thing

1246
00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:56,339
I didn't attach those photos because

1247
00:48:00,890 --> 00:47:58,800
it's YouTube but it it it's like the

1248
00:48:02,569 --> 00:48:00,900
whole thing is just crazy out there and

1249
00:48:05,210 --> 00:48:02,579
it's every you know our Art Bell is

1250
00:48:06,589 --> 00:48:05,220
buried out out uh outside of Vegas and

1251
00:48:07,970 --> 00:48:06,599
there's so much history out there when

1252
00:48:09,890 --> 00:48:07,980
it comes to ufology it's kind of

1253
00:48:12,770 --> 00:48:09,900
impossible not to uh

1254
00:48:16,250 --> 00:48:12,780
you know see when you're out there just

1255
00:48:18,890 --> 00:48:16,260
the the historical significance of UFOs

1256
00:48:20,210 --> 00:48:18,900
to that town and it's so weird uh

1257
00:48:21,349 --> 00:48:20,220
because you know Vegas has so much going

1258
00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:21,359
on they have an entire underground

1259
00:48:24,530 --> 00:48:23,040
civilization living in the sewers that

1260
00:48:27,530 --> 00:48:24,540
no one talks about that that's a crazy

1261
00:48:30,770 --> 00:48:27,540
part of Vegas but uh it was a lot of fun

1262
00:48:32,569 --> 00:48:30,780
my childhood uh my inner child was just

1263
00:48:34,130 --> 00:48:32,579
screaming the entire time we pulled up

1264
00:48:36,530 --> 00:48:34,140
there there were no other vehicles there

1265
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:36,540
and it was just one of those things that

1266
00:48:39,890 --> 00:48:37,440
um

1267
00:48:41,690 --> 00:48:39,900
if if you were at all interested in UFOs

1268
00:48:43,550 --> 00:48:41,700
you have to make the trip it's

1269
00:48:45,710 --> 00:48:43,560
terrifying I'm gonna tell you it is

1270
00:48:48,349 --> 00:48:45,720
absolutely terrifying to drive out

1271
00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:48,359
because okay so how it works is to get

1272
00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:53,280
to the town outside of area 51. it is

1273
00:48:58,190 --> 00:48:55,520
what a two-hour drive from Vegas

1274
00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:58,200
in the middle of the desert middle it's

1275
00:49:01,849 --> 00:48:59,280
on by Rachel

1276
00:49:03,650 --> 00:49:01,859
I think so yep Rachel

1277
00:49:05,089 --> 00:49:03,660
um and they have like a little uh in

1278
00:49:08,329 --> 00:49:05,099
there and they also have food and that's

1279
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:08,339
like the only thing for miles and it's

1280
00:49:11,690 --> 00:49:10,079
in the middle of the desert

1281
00:49:14,569 --> 00:49:11,700
kind of back roads the roads weren't

1282
00:49:17,809 --> 00:49:14,579
that rough but to get to Area 51 you

1283
00:49:22,010 --> 00:49:17,819
actually had to drive behind the Inn

1284
00:49:25,130 --> 00:49:22,020
slash Diner and on this dirt and gravel

1285
00:49:27,710 --> 00:49:25,140
and sand Road Drive I I think it was

1286
00:49:29,329 --> 00:49:27,720
like two miles back drive two miles back

1287
00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:29,339
to actually get to the entrance of Area

1288
00:49:34,430 --> 00:49:32,160
51 and once you get past like this

1289
00:49:36,829 --> 00:49:34,440
little Hill you don't see nothing but

1290
00:49:40,010 --> 00:49:36,839
just desert a couple mountains in The

1291
00:49:42,470 --> 00:49:40,020
Descent no houses no nothing it was

1292
00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:42,480
crazy and there was no one there too

1293
00:49:46,370 --> 00:49:44,160
like I didn't see a single person at

1294
00:49:48,530 --> 00:49:46,380
that entrance at you know cars no

1295
00:49:49,790 --> 00:49:48,540
nothing yeah so what's what's being

1296
00:49:51,170 --> 00:49:49,800
shown on the screen right now that's the

1297
00:49:53,950 --> 00:49:51,180
actual entrance uh if you guys are

1298
00:49:56,510 --> 00:49:53,960
familiar with the raid Area 51

1299
00:49:58,370 --> 00:49:56,520
yeah that's where it took place and you

1300
00:50:01,190 --> 00:49:58,380
know it's interesting because

1301
00:50:02,870 --> 00:50:01,200
there was a time and I I said and I've

1302
00:50:03,770 --> 00:50:02,880
had people tell me that they don't do it

1303
00:50:06,230 --> 00:50:03,780
anymore

1304
00:50:08,210 --> 00:50:06,240
they used to the hill above that area

1305
00:50:10,970 --> 00:50:08,220
used to have they used to sit up there

1306
00:50:14,089 --> 00:50:10,980
and they used to literally come out to

1307
00:50:17,450 --> 00:50:14,099
anybody who was within 100 yards of that

1308
00:50:19,790 --> 00:50:17,460
that fence yeah it was it was dead I

1309
00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:19,800
didn't see nobody I didn't even on the

1310
00:50:25,130 --> 00:50:22,800
drive-in no cars there were tracks but I

1311
00:50:27,290 --> 00:50:25,140
didn't see any cars yeah oddly enough

1312
00:50:29,329 --> 00:50:27,300
right Patterson Air Force Base uh has

1313
00:50:31,370 --> 00:50:29,339
more higher Security in my opinion than

1314
00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:31,380
Area 51 did because I agree with you

1315
00:50:34,790 --> 00:50:33,359
because I've been there and they do yeah

1316
00:50:36,170 --> 00:50:34,800
you try and sneak on the right path you

1317
00:50:38,450 --> 00:50:36,180
got about five seconds before you're

1318
00:50:40,250 --> 00:50:38,460
tackled it's uh absolutely I love

1319
00:50:42,770 --> 00:50:40,260
Wright-Patt I grew up you know 10 miles

1320
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:42,780
15 miles away from Wright-Patterson I've

1321
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:45,359
heard all the stories and it's it's

1322
00:50:49,010 --> 00:50:47,520
I I don't know it was a different vibe

1323
00:50:51,589 --> 00:50:49,020
that that's for sure you can definitely

1324
00:50:53,390 --> 00:50:51,599
tell that yes you're in the uh you're

1325
00:50:54,829 --> 00:50:53,400
you're in somewhere you shouldn't be

1326
00:50:57,230 --> 00:50:54,839
when you pull up on the sign saying no

1327
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:57,240
photography you will be arrested don't

1328
00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:58,559
do this and we're like we're taking

1329
00:51:00,650 --> 00:50:59,760
pictures yeah we're gonna take the

1330
00:51:02,329 --> 00:51:00,660
pictures

1331
00:51:05,510 --> 00:51:02,339
yeah

1332
00:51:07,309 --> 00:51:05,520
but it was it was crazy well I saw you

1333
00:51:09,230 --> 00:51:07,319
know I knew I knew you sent them these

1334
00:51:11,329 --> 00:51:09,240
pictures to the Vincent so I did want to

1335
00:51:14,089 --> 00:51:11,339
ask you about it uh

1336
00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:14,099
yeah well you guys hit a lot of stuff I

1337
00:51:18,670 --> 00:51:16,319
mean that is a pretty wild like Vince

1338
00:51:22,010 --> 00:51:18,680
has said a pretty crazy

1339
00:51:23,990 --> 00:51:22,020
road trip hitting all that I think I'm

1340
00:51:28,250 --> 00:51:24,000
gone for like a week and a half so we

1341
00:51:32,270 --> 00:51:28,260
drove from Ohio Denver to Shasta Shasta

1342
00:51:35,809 --> 00:51:32,280
to uh Reno Reno to Vegas is that is that

1343
00:51:38,450 --> 00:51:35,819
the route we took yep yeah wow

1344
00:51:40,609 --> 00:51:38,460
yeah I go to Vegas I'm there a week I

1345
00:51:43,069 --> 00:51:40,619
mean you know I'm not going there and

1346
00:51:44,930 --> 00:51:43,079
spend a couple days I'm there a week

1347
00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:44,940
um reach enough for me because I'm tired

1348
00:51:48,890 --> 00:51:47,280
after a week yeah I I think we're kind

1349
00:51:50,210 --> 00:51:48,900
of like Drifters when it comes to us

1350
00:51:52,250 --> 00:51:50,220
going these different places because

1351
00:51:54,049 --> 00:51:52,260
we're always like okay we're gonna spend

1352
00:51:55,490 --> 00:51:54,059
the entire week here we're gonna do all

1353
00:51:56,990 --> 00:51:55,500
these things and then after day two

1354
00:51:58,849 --> 00:51:57,000
we're like no let's go somewhere else

1355
00:52:01,069 --> 00:51:58,859
yeah it well it reminds me of a few

1356
00:52:03,230 --> 00:52:01,079
years ago we went on vacation uh to New

1357
00:52:06,049 --> 00:52:03,240
Orleans and we're in New Orleans which

1358
00:52:08,210 --> 00:52:06,059
is a place that we absolutely love and

1359
00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:08,220
um I happen to see a Reddit post summer

1360
00:52:12,829 --> 00:52:11,280
at Summerset Kentucky goblins black SUVs

1361
00:52:14,270 --> 00:52:12,839
Men In Black I'm like Brittany we gotta

1362
00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:14,280
pack up unfortunately we gotta go home

1363
00:52:18,890 --> 00:52:15,599
get our equipment we gotta go back down

1364
00:52:21,710 --> 00:52:18,900
to Somerset so I drove from uh summer or

1365
00:52:23,210 --> 00:52:21,720
from New Orleans Louisiana up to the

1366
00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:23,220
northern Peninsula of Michigan because

1367
00:52:26,750 --> 00:52:24,720
this guy had a piece of equipment that

1368
00:52:29,930 --> 00:52:26,760
I've been looking for as an original sb7

1369
00:52:31,309 --> 00:52:29,940
uh the Gen one from Saint Augustine and

1370
00:52:34,250 --> 00:52:31,319
the Gen ones for anyone that's familiar

1371
00:52:35,270 --> 00:52:34,260
that's like the Holy Grail of sb7s I

1372
00:52:36,829 --> 00:52:35,280
drove all the way to Northern Michigan

1373
00:52:40,549 --> 00:52:36,839
then back down down to Somerset Kentucky

1374
00:52:42,829 --> 00:52:40,559
in a day just so wow so we can go chase

1375
00:52:44,990 --> 00:52:42,839
down these uh these goblins yeah we were

1376
00:52:48,410 --> 00:52:45,000
going we went caving that time soon that

1377
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:50,870
I'm I'm speechless that that's that's

1378
00:52:56,930 --> 00:52:54,240
amazing that's a lot of Drive

1379
00:52:59,630 --> 00:52:56,940
I always feel so bad for our rentals

1380
00:53:02,150 --> 00:52:59,640
yeah what's funny is the girl who uh who

1381
00:53:04,430 --> 00:53:02,160
works at the the the Avis which is where

1382
00:53:07,030 --> 00:53:04,440
we get our rentals she's a fan of the

1383
00:53:09,230 --> 00:53:07,040
show and she's always like

1384
00:53:12,170 --> 00:53:09,240
yeah and it's like how far are you

1385
00:53:13,309 --> 00:53:12,180
really driving and I'm like the plan is

1386
00:53:16,190 --> 00:53:13,319
to go to Louisiana we might hit

1387
00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:16,200
California she's like okay okay that's

1388
00:53:20,750 --> 00:53:18,240
fine like for the the California trip we

1389
00:53:23,030 --> 00:53:20,760
rented a brand new uh Ford Bronco and we

1390
00:53:24,650 --> 00:53:23,040
I said yeah we're gonna go to Denver and

1391
00:53:27,410 --> 00:53:24,660
back and then I brought it back like a

1392
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:27,420
thousand plus extra miles

1393
00:53:30,770 --> 00:53:29,040
I did see some folks want to know what

1394
00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:30,780
happened at Skinwalker so the brief

1395
00:53:36,650 --> 00:53:33,119
synopsis is we we arrived in the Uinta

1396
00:53:39,890 --> 00:53:36,660
Basin we were we drove from Denver to uh

1397
00:53:41,329 --> 00:53:39,900
the through the Uinta Basin at and we

1398
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:41,339
ended up in the town that what's the

1399
00:53:44,450 --> 00:53:42,960
town that Skinwalker Ranch is at I don't

1400
00:53:45,950 --> 00:53:44,460
remember I don't remember but one for

1401
00:53:47,390 --> 00:53:45,960
one I don't ever recommend anyone drive

1402
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:47,400
through Rocky Mountain National Park at

1403
00:53:51,470 --> 00:53:49,200
night oh my God that was terrifying that

1404
00:53:53,809 --> 00:53:51,480
was horrifying um I saw the biggest elk

1405
00:53:56,390 --> 00:53:53,819
the elk was bigger than the uh car the

1406
00:53:58,609 --> 00:53:56,400
Bronco Bronco by far yeah I grew up in

1407
00:54:00,829 --> 00:53:58,619
Appalachia Appalachian Mountains and

1408
00:54:05,569 --> 00:54:00,839
being on top of those mountains I was

1409
00:54:07,790 --> 00:54:05,579
having an absolute panic attack yes

1410
00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:07,800
um we make it to the the town outside of

1411
00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:09,599
Skinwalker Ranch and I stopped at a gas

1412
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:11,520
station I wake up because I've been

1413
00:54:14,930 --> 00:54:13,680
sleeping yeah and this the the girl the

1414
00:54:16,609 --> 00:54:14,940
the clerk with the gas station she's

1415
00:54:18,950 --> 00:54:16,619
looking at something on her phone and I

1416
00:54:20,930 --> 00:54:18,960
said hey uh I always have the same Trope

1417
00:54:23,510 --> 00:54:20,940
have you ever seen anything strange in

1418
00:54:24,950 --> 00:54:23,520
the area any strange lights noises

1419
00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:24,960
anything that that's just out of the

1420
00:54:28,370 --> 00:54:26,640
ordinary I try and check up a

1421
00:54:29,569 --> 00:54:28,380
conversation she's like like well

1422
00:54:31,069 --> 00:54:29,579
funnily enough I'm watching a live

1423
00:54:34,010 --> 00:54:31,079
stream of my friend right now out at

1424
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:34,020
Skinwalker Ranch who's UFO hunting and

1425
00:54:38,210 --> 00:54:36,480
I'm like no that's yeah there's no way

1426
00:54:40,370 --> 00:54:38,220
that's what you just said yeah and I

1427
00:54:42,849 --> 00:54:40,380
kind of stopped and I'm like do you know

1428
00:54:45,410 --> 00:54:42,859
who I am you know

1429
00:54:46,970 --> 00:54:45,420
that's a weird thing for you to say and

1430
00:54:48,890 --> 00:54:46,980
she shows me on the screen she goes well

1431
00:54:50,510 --> 00:54:48,900
hey I'll text him and tell him you're

1432
00:54:52,910 --> 00:54:50,520
coming out there a whole watch for you

1433
00:54:55,010 --> 00:54:52,920
so I'm like absolutely meeting strangers

1434
00:54:58,069 --> 00:54:55,020
and yeah in the middle of the night it's

1435
00:55:00,049 --> 00:54:58,079
like 12 in the morning yeah so we make

1436
00:55:02,150 --> 00:55:00,059
it out there and uh we couldn't find

1437
00:55:03,770 --> 00:55:02,160
this guy and she's like well he's on the

1438
00:55:05,809 --> 00:55:03,780
screen he's like laying on the side of

1439
00:55:08,690 --> 00:55:05,819
some Hill with night vision on his his

1440
00:55:11,450 --> 00:55:08,700
Facebook camera and I I don't know what

1441
00:55:13,970 --> 00:55:11,460
to make of that but we uh she just said

1442
00:55:16,730 --> 00:55:13,980
look for a red car a red truck I think

1443
00:55:18,349 --> 00:55:16,740
is what she said yeah so we we pull up

1444
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:18,359
to the entrance of Skinwalker Ranch

1445
00:55:22,010 --> 00:55:19,680
which hilariously enough you can put

1446
00:55:24,250 --> 00:55:22,020
that into your your GPS and it'll just

1447
00:55:26,690 --> 00:55:24,260
take you this is the Skinwalker Ranch

1448
00:55:28,609 --> 00:55:26,700
and like I said I know we're gonna press

1449
00:55:30,290 --> 00:55:28,619
for time but basically long story short

1450
00:55:32,210 --> 00:55:30,300
we end up getting we see some strange

1451
00:55:34,250 --> 00:55:32,220
lights in the sky and we told the the

1452
00:55:37,790 --> 00:55:34,260
full story on the podcast

1453
00:55:39,530 --> 00:55:37,800
um we get chased out by these dogs and

1454
00:55:42,170 --> 00:55:39,540
you know I've been chased by wild dogs

1455
00:55:43,069 --> 00:55:42,180
before I'm not I I understand that

1456
00:55:45,049 --> 00:55:43,079
they'll chase you for a little bit

1457
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:45,059
usually to the end of the lane if we're

1458
00:55:49,730 --> 00:55:47,520
talking about Appalachian terms well as

1459
00:55:51,109 --> 00:55:49,740
we're driving out of Skinwalker Ranch

1460
00:55:53,930 --> 00:55:51,119
and we get near the town we're talking

1461
00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:53,940
two three four miles I I look at

1462
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:55,680
Brittany I'm like I think

1463
00:55:59,690 --> 00:55:57,599
we might have like ran into a skin

1464
00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:59,700
walker and she's like stop don't say

1465
00:56:05,210 --> 00:56:00,480
that

1466
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:05,220
sudden you hear dogs barking behind us

1467
00:56:10,430 --> 00:56:06,960
and chasing the car

1468
00:56:11,990 --> 00:56:10,440
several miles away and the entire night

1469
00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:12,000
was just one thing after the next where

1470
00:56:15,410 --> 00:56:13,920
it was just strange feelings then we

1471
00:56:17,630 --> 00:56:15,420
would see these dogs that would chase us

1472
00:56:19,849 --> 00:56:17,640
and lights in the sky well we were

1473
00:56:22,130 --> 00:56:19,859
actually gonna stay in the town once we

1474
00:56:24,770 --> 00:56:22,140
hit scan Walker Ranch we were we were

1475
00:56:27,650 --> 00:56:24,780
exhausted and there was absolutely after

1476
00:56:29,329 --> 00:56:27,660
that encounter there was no way in he

1477
00:56:33,049 --> 00:56:29,339
double hockey sticks that we were saying

1478
00:56:35,089 --> 00:56:33,059
in that town we left immediately and

1479
00:56:38,030 --> 00:56:35,099
drove all the way to Mount Shasta after

1480
00:56:39,470 --> 00:56:38,040
that there was no way it was terrifying

1481
00:56:41,089 --> 00:56:39,480
wow

1482
00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:41,099
well you know I'm gonna have to have you

1483
00:56:45,770 --> 00:56:43,440
two come back on the show because look

1484
00:56:47,870 --> 00:56:45,780
anytime you you something working on

1485
00:56:50,690 --> 00:56:47,880
something or you go somewhere and you

1486
00:56:52,370 --> 00:56:50,700
seem to be going everywhere uh

1487
00:56:53,930 --> 00:56:52,380
you know let me know I can bring you

1488
00:56:55,730 --> 00:56:53,940
back and we could talk about some things

1489
00:56:58,670 --> 00:56:55,740
we didn't cover tonight but uh

1490
00:57:00,950 --> 00:56:58,680
absolutely this has been great

1491
00:57:03,950 --> 00:57:00,960
um I really appreciate that one we had a

1492
00:57:05,450 --> 00:57:03,960
great time talking to you well yeah you

1493
00:57:07,370 --> 00:57:05,460
know why don't you tell everybody what

1494
00:57:08,690 --> 00:57:07,380
you you know how they can get in contact

1495
00:57:09,230 --> 00:57:08,700
with you

1496
00:57:11,690 --> 00:57:09,240
um

1497
00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:11,700
uh about the podcast and you know

1498
00:57:15,410 --> 00:57:13,920
anything you want to tell them okay uh

1499
00:57:17,030 --> 00:57:15,420
yeah so the number one way we

1500
00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:17,040
communicate and we we are very active in

1501
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:18,480
our Facebook group called Tales from the

1502
00:57:22,069 --> 00:57:20,400
dark uh you have to answer two questions

1503
00:57:23,569 --> 00:57:22,079
to get in if you don't answer both uh I

1504
00:57:26,510 --> 00:57:23,579
I don't care if I know you personally I

1505
00:57:28,130 --> 00:57:26,520
do not accept them into this that's just

1506
00:57:30,109 --> 00:57:28,140
that's how we kind of weaned out the

1507
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:30,119
crazies over the years not not again the

1508
00:57:34,970 --> 00:57:33,359
Bots mainly yeah I should say uh the

1509
00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:34,980
website Tales from the dark net where we

1510
00:57:38,329 --> 00:57:36,240
have our merchandise you can listen to

1511
00:57:40,970 --> 00:57:38,339
our show there uh we have a bunch of

1512
00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:40,980
pictures or a bunch of episode uh like

1513
00:57:44,809 --> 00:57:42,960
synopsis is up there and then we're on

1514
00:57:46,250 --> 00:57:44,819
every major podcast platform you name it

1515
00:57:47,870 --> 00:57:46,260
we're on it just search Tales from the

1516
00:57:49,549 --> 00:57:47,880
dark we have we're coming up I think on

1517
00:57:51,650 --> 00:57:49,559
200 episodes we might be over 200

1518
00:57:53,510 --> 00:57:51,660
episodes we're over yeah uh we also have

1519
00:57:55,309 --> 00:57:53,520
a YouTube channel uh Tales from the dark

1520
00:57:57,230 --> 00:57:55,319
we have our documentary coming out this

1521
00:57:59,750 --> 00:57:57,240
like I said here shortly called Phantom

1522
00:58:02,329 --> 00:57:59,760
farm and uh if you're looking for more

1523
00:58:03,710 --> 00:58:02,339
uh Missing Persons content you can check

1524
00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:03,720
out uh Britney's Tales from the dark

1525
00:58:07,910 --> 00:58:05,520
True Crime again also on every major

1526
00:58:09,530 --> 00:58:07,920
podcast platform and then I uh edit

1527
00:58:11,089 --> 00:58:09,540
videos and I do some co-narration with

1528
00:58:13,549 --> 00:58:11,099
the missing persons mysteries YouTube

1529
00:58:14,809 --> 00:58:13,559
channel so I think that's everywhere

1530
00:58:16,490 --> 00:58:14,819
that I can think of right now but I'm

1531
00:58:18,049 --> 00:58:16,500
sure I forgot something yeah we got a

1532
00:58:22,430 --> 00:58:18,059
lot of irons in the fire that's for sure

1533
00:58:23,569 --> 00:58:22,440
I I understand that I I actually concur

1534
00:58:25,790 --> 00:58:23,579
you know

1535
00:58:28,670 --> 00:58:25,800
there's a lot of stuff going on and

1536
00:58:30,890 --> 00:58:28,680
keeping busy and I see you are too so I

1537
00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:30,900
hate like I said if anything comes up

1538
00:58:35,450 --> 00:58:32,640
you want to come back on just get in

1539
00:58:38,150 --> 00:58:35,460
contact with me or Vincent and uh we

1540
00:58:39,710 --> 00:58:38,160
will oblige absolutely thank you so much

1541
00:58:42,109 --> 00:58:39,720
we appreciate it thanks for coming on

1542
00:58:46,670 --> 00:58:42,119
tonight you all have a great weekend you

1543
00:58:51,470 --> 00:58:49,010
now if uh you've had a citing or

1544
00:58:53,329 --> 00:58:51,480
encounter report uh that you'd like to

1545
00:58:55,910 --> 00:58:53,339
be considered for fams and monsters or

1546
00:58:57,890 --> 00:58:55,920
even the personal report show uh feel

1547
00:59:00,410 --> 00:58:57,900
free to contact me at my email long

1548
00:59:01,910 --> 00:59:00,420
stricklerfamilies and monsters.com I

1549
00:59:03,530 --> 00:59:01,920
want to again thank Bob Hicks and

1550
00:59:06,049 --> 00:59:03,540
Brittany Clark for joining me this

1551
00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:06,059
evening and thanks to each and all you

1552
00:59:09,770 --> 00:59:07,920
for watching and chatting

1553
00:59:14,030 --> 00:59:09,780
um your support is what makes all this

1554
00:59:18,589 --> 00:59:14,040
possible please like subscribe and share

1555
00:59:22,910 --> 00:59:18,599
uh I will have a fans Monster's personal

1556
00:59:25,370 --> 00:59:22,920
report show on Wednesday again uh we've

1557
00:59:26,210 --> 00:59:25,380
had a lot going on

1558
00:59:29,089 --> 00:59:26,220
um

1559
00:59:30,950 --> 00:59:29,099
I've had people who who asked me

1560
00:59:33,890 --> 00:59:30,960
uh since we've I've been talking about

1561
00:59:36,589 --> 00:59:33,900
Mothman lately I did a show last night

1562
00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:36,599
talking about Mothman and

1563
00:59:41,270 --> 00:59:39,119
they they wanted me to talk about my

1564
00:59:43,250 --> 00:59:41,280
encounter I have in 88 so I'll go ahead

1565
00:59:46,370 --> 00:59:43,260
and oblige everybody and talk about that

1566
00:59:48,650 --> 00:59:46,380
but I also I will also mention the new

1567
00:59:50,569 --> 00:59:48,660
cases that we got and that had been

1568
00:59:53,270 --> 00:59:50,579
reported to us in the Chicago area and

1569
00:59:56,210 --> 00:59:53,280
other places as well so that'll be nine

1570
00:59:59,030 --> 00:59:56,220
o'clock P.M Eastern Time 6 p.m Pacific

1571
01:00:02,990 --> 00:59:59,040
so if you have questions for me please

1572
01:00:05,390 --> 01:00:03,000
come into the chat and uh I'll try to

1573
01:00:07,849 --> 01:00:05,400
answer as much as possible and stay

1574
01:00:09,130 --> 01:00:07,859
tuned to uh Bernadette mcgannell's a

1575
01:00:12,109 --> 01:00:09,140
paranormal life

1576
01:00:15,589 --> 01:00:12,119
uh you know uh here on fans monsters

1577
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:15,599
radio 11 p.m Eastern Time 8 P.M Pacific

1578
01:00:19,609 --> 01:00:18,000
time she's got a very interesting guest

1579
01:00:21,890 --> 01:00:19,619
coming on they're going to be talking

1580
01:00:22,910 --> 01:00:21,900
about some subjects we don't normally

1581
01:00:26,809 --> 01:00:22,920
cover

1582
01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:26,819
uh aquatic Cryptids

1583
01:00:31,609 --> 01:00:29,040
that should be interesting so until then

1584
01:00:34,670 --> 01:00:31,619
uh stay healthy have a safe enjoyable

1585
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:38,240
questions

1586
01:00:38,250 --> 01:00:42,770
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1587
01:00:42,780 --> 01:00:58,500
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1588
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